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Google Groups Home Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in talk.religion.bahai Message from discussion Sects in the Baha'i Faith View parsed - Show only message text Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,alt.religion.bahai Subject: Re: Sects in the Baha'i Faith Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:39:20 -0800 (PST) Organization: https://groups.google.com Lines: 42 Message-ID: <24140705-8950-4b23-9009-9175dd473056@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <736931ea-1e9e-4046-8451-c6f4cec3b32c@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.173.108.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1233625161 16239 127.0.0.1 (3 Feb 2009 01:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.173.108.147; posting-account=zRpl_AkAAAAiXIRdBqKxFUkV7N1Xe3-B User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) On Feb 2, 6:19=A0pm, "ratur...@yahoo.co.uk" wrote: > On Jan 31, 4:47=A0pm, Covenant Breaker > wrote: > > > Oh Yes ! > > There are no Sects in the Baha'i Faith. > > >https://www.sectsofbahais.com > > > Please pass on to H. Baha'is. > > > THEY MUST KNOW THIS. > > I think most Baha'is do know this. > > "The fact is that in the small span of 160 years Bah=E1'=ED Faith has see= n > more divisions than any other religion." > > I very much doubt that. How many sects did Islam have after 160 years? > > One of the extraordinary things about the Baha'i Faith is that after > 160 years, something like 99.9% (i.e. all but maybe 5,000 out of > 5,000,000) of people alive today who accept the Bab, accept the > Universal House of Justice in Haifa. I'm not aware of any other > religion that has anything like that degree of coherence. > > Andrew That degree of coherence comes because of the fanatical efforts by the UHJ to stifle dissent, including threats, intimidation, shunning, separating families, and filing lawsuits against those who dare to call themselves "Baha'i" even though they do not conform to the dictates of the headless monster they call the UHJ. Yes, it is extraordinary! For information on the court case waged by the NSA of Wilmette against the Orthodox Baha'is and others, go here: https://www.truebahai.com/court_case.html Jeffrey Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy ©2009 Google https://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/d446981fb4bd8135?hl=en&dmode=source Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Newsgroups: talk.religion.bahai,soc.culture.iranian,alt.religion.bahai Subject: Re: Sects in the Baha'i Faith Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:38:34 -0800 (PST) Organization: https://groups.google.com Lines: 65 Message-ID: <4e5b67b1-a197-4719-830a-eea2312ed4f1@a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com> References: <736931ea-1e9e-4046-8451-c6f4cec3b32c@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <24140705-8950-4b23-9009-9175dd473056@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.173.108.147 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1233686315 6788 127.0.0.1 (3 Feb 2009 18:38:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: a12g2000pro.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.173.108.147; posting-account=zRpl_AkAAAAiXIRdBqKxFUkV7N1Xe3-B User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) On Feb 3, 7:49=A0am, "ratur...@yahoo.co.uk" wrote: > On Feb 3, 1:39=A0am, Jeffrey wrote: > > > > > On Feb 2, 6:19=A0pm, "ratur...@yahoo.co.uk" > > wrote: > > > > On Jan 31, 4:47=A0pm, Covenant Breaker > > > wrote: > > > > > Oh Yes ! > > > > There are no Sects in the Baha'i Faith. > > > > >https://www.sectsofbahais.com > > > > > Please pass on to H. Baha'is. > > > > > THEY MUST KNOW THIS. > > > > I think most Baha'is do know this. > > > > "The fact is that in the small span of 160 years Bah=E1'=ED Faith has= seen > > > more divisions than any other religion." > > > > I very much doubt that. How many sects did Islam have after 160 years= ? > > > > One of the extraordinary things about the Baha'i Faith is that after > > > 160 years, something like 99.9% (i.e. all but maybe 5,000 out of > > > 5,000,000) of people alive today who accept the Bab, accept the > > > Universal House of Justice in Haifa. I'm not aware of any other > > > religion that has anything like that degree of coherence. > > > > Andrew > > > That degree of coherence comes because of the fanatical efforts by the > > UHJ to stifle dissent, including threats, intimidation, shunning, > > separating families, and filing lawsuits against those who dare to > > call themselves "Baha'i" even though they do not conform to the > > dictates of the headless monster they call the UHJ. =A0Yes, it is > > extraordinary! > > > For information on the court case waged by the NSA of Wilmette against > > the Orthodox Baha'is and others, go here:https://www.truebahai.com/court= _case.html > > > Jeffrey > > I'm familiar with the Orthodix Baha'i court case and the practice of > shunning perceiving "covenant breakers" However, I don't see it as > particularly different to what, say, Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses do. > Mainstream Muslims do far worse to deemed apostates than Baha'is do. > > Andrew. Oh well, then, I guess its just OK! There are many groups that are worse and so lets ignore just how sick the UHJ and its followers are and gush about how wonderfully "united" they are. Give me a break! Jeffrey